As requested (many times), my year-by-year undergraduate GPA (OMSAS) :
Year 1: 3.64
Year 2: 3.75
Year 3: 3.86
Year 4: 3.86
cGPA: 3.78
wGPA (weighted for U of T): 3.88
Not the most impressive stats, as you can clearly see.
I first started applying during third year of undergrad, more for practice than expecting actual interviews given my stats at the time. I've applied every year since then, at one point applying to the US (which was a complete and utter fail- for good reason). Here's a year-to-year breakdown along with graphical illustrations of my reaction to rejections each year:
Cycle 1- 2010-2011
Applied: Queen's, Toronto, McMaster
Rejected: Queen's, Toronto, McMaster
Figure 1. Pre-intervew rejections. |
This was the year Queen's first started taking ECs into pre-interview scoring, hence the lack of an interview...
Cycle 2- 2011-2012
Applied: Queen's, Toronto, McMaster, Western, Ottawa, Manitoba, Calgary
Interview: Manitoba, Western
Rejected: Manitoba, Western
Interviews at Western & Manitoba- see How to really, really screw up important interviews: a ragecomic presentation.
Cycle 3- 2012-2013
Applied: Queen's, Toronto, McMaster, Western, Ottawa, Manitoba, 14 US schools
Interview: McMaster (off waitlist), Western
Rejected: McMaster, Western, all US schools
Figure 2. Overly-exaggerated graphical illustration of post-rejection celebrations. |
To be honest, this was probably among the most (but not the most) depressing, disappointing moments in my life. Especially considering the amount of help I was given by some awesome people around me... also didn't help that I was receiving pre-interview rejections year-round (starting from September? Or something like that) from the US schools I applied to. More on that later, but mostly due to bad reference letter(s), terribly written essay & secondaries, and lack of quantifiable research during applications.
Cycle 4- 2013-2014
Applied: Queen's, Toronto, McMaster, Western, McGill
Interview: Queen's, Toronto, Western (MD/PhD)Rejected: All MD/PhD programs, and 1 MD
Waitlist: 1 MD
Accepted: 1 MD (after initial waitlist)
Summary: This was the first year I could apply with actual research experience/accomplishments in hand, since I had only started my job around the time applications were due in the previous cycle (2012-2013). After 1-1.5 years of solid research slavery (see Enslaved by brains: a ragecomic representation), I had a reasonably decent CV for MD/PhD programs- and was lucky enough to get interviews.
The interview at the school I was accepted to was the last interview I did, whilst knowing I was rejected from all the MD/PhD programs and also highly likely rejected from the MD programs as well since the interviews occurred on the same days/weekends (and interview performance likely correlated among each other). I went into the interview saying to myself that this is the last med school interview I will ever do, and ended up as the most "real" interview I ever did- I was not nervous at all, and able to be "myself" during the entire interview. I left feeling confident, and continuously so until a week before May 13th.
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After 36 (that's a nice number) pre- and post-interview rejections, and 7 interviews over 4 application cycles, I finally have an acceptance in my hand. Even as I'm filling out paperwork, applying for my LOC, and doing all the med-like things I've always wanted to do (paperwork ftw), and as cliché as this sounds, I still can't believe I'm in. Imposter syndrome, even before starting med school...
...and I find myself wondering what I'm going to write about now in this blog of mine. Perhaps something about research? How to epic-fail at US med applications? Not really sure.
Matt
13 comments:
Congratulations on your acceptance and conclusion of your admission cycle. Perhaps you can write about why many Korean Canadian pre-meds experience difficulties passing the interviews?
Hey, thanks. I was actually planning on writing something regarding that (even have a draft somewhere)... but then realized I don't have any empirical data to support it's Korean Canadian premeds that are specifically having trouble passing interviews, when compared to students from another ethnicity. I think the interview stage is tough for everyone, regardless of race...
In addition- if I knew why, maybe I wouldn't have had such a hard time with interviews myself :)
Hmm... ok. I was looking forward to the article to know what you personally thought the difficulties were. Perhaps something like casual observations based on your experiences?
Hey Matt.
First off - you rock. This blog is hilarious, easy to relate to, and inspiring.
Question: do you mind posting what you undergraduate GPA was? Just wondering
Hi Kim,
Interestingly enough, I had a conversation today regarding exactly this... that I would post my undergrad GPA if asked on my blog. See above.
What's your opinion on pursuing a masters if rejected after 4th year? Coming from someone with a not so great undergrad GPA (terrible actually, aside from the last two years). Trying to decide between a 5th year, masters (1 year if possible), or research.
Also, congrats :)
Hey Dave,
I think grad school (research in general) & whether or not it's worth your time really depends on a lot of things (imo): based on the supervisor, funding available, chance(s) to publish (field is important here), lab atmosphere (cooperative vs cut-throat?), your own interest in the research, etc, etc... I've seen some friends have truly miserable experiences during their masters, while I came to really love my work & field, mostly due to above factors. Careful consideration required, I think.
Hey Matt,
I knew you would get in!! congratulations, it is well deserved.
Hope you have an awesome time in meds, I had a severe case of imposter syndrome myself due to so many failures but I passed my first year so it is not impossible hehe.
hope you enjoy this summer to finally relax and travel for a bit.
You worked too hard over so many years so you deserve to take time some off. I worked until June and then traveled the west side (vancouver, victoria and seattle) and then came back home did New York and I can't remember what else I did except just not doing anything.
I'm sure you will be more productive than I am haha, but hope you enjoy this moment and remember all throughout your difficult times.
Hey Anonymous,
Thank you very much! I'm really looking forward to first year, seems like fun times...
It sounds like you had fun (I've only been to Seattle once for a conference- awesome city!). I traveled a bit this summer (through another conference) & took a few weeks off, but I'm now back at work to finish off some papers before starting school... but everything is indeed more enjoyable after I finally received good news, instead of the usual.
Thank you for your support!
Best,
Matt
Hey,
I got rejected from UofT last year (first time applying) and am currently applying to US schools and UofT. I felt pretty bummed out about getting rejected last year, but after reading your post I feel much better.
It's amazing how you were able to psychologically win yourself over and continue applying. Thanks for the post and giving me the motivation to continue on.
Hey Matt!
Great blog! I was really curious about your experience applying to those 14 US Medical Schools. I always thought of it as a backup to Canadian Medical Schools but you make it seem like it's 10000X more difficult to even get an interview. Do you think you could make a new post about which schools you applied to or shed some light on why those 14 applications went so poorly?
Thanks!
Your rage comics are hilarious! And your "life cycle" into medial school was very similar to mine, right down to getting off the wait list (third round for me). I hope you keep up the blog in medical school, and good luck!
Hey Matt,
Haven't check in on this blog for a while, but I wanna say congratulations!
I am also a first year MD student in Ontario, and I gotta say your blog posts helped me so much on my MCAT and gave me the confidence to take the exam. I really related to some of the struggles you had and loved the humorous spin you put on them with your memes and comics. Wish you all the best and hopefully we will run into each other around the wards some day.
Cheers.
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